1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,000 MUSIC 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,000 A discovery from deep within the mountains of China. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Twelve thousand year old ancient stone disks 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 with an encrypted message from extraterrestrials called the dropa. 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Some believe they tell an amazing story. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 There was an alien crash landing. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Did aliens visit China thousands of years ago? 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Is there a connection to today's UFO sightings? 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 I named it the Chinese Rosswell. 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Is the Chinese government hiding evidence of extraterrestrial contact? 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,000 The Dropa Stones is the strangest UFO story I've ever encountered. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Join us as we uncover the truth behind China's Roswell. 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,000 MUSIC 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,000 The story of the mysterious dropa disks begins deep within China's Bayan Karahula Mountains. 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:14,000 There, a 1938 archaeological expedition led by Chai Pu-Tei 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,000 reportedly arrived to study a series of interconnected caves. 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 What the earth said to have found was far more intriguing. 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 In a cave allegedly found a row, row upon row, 19 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 or several rows of what looked like graves. 20 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,000 But these were no ordinary graves. 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Inside these graves were many skeleton spirits, 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 skeletons with big heads, big and clumsy heads, 23 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,000 and with fragile bones. 24 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:59,000 In addition on the walls, we are told that there were images of these thick figures of, presumably, these beings, 25 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 these short beings with the large heads, with images of the sun, moon and stars. 26 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 He also found 716 stone disks, one feet in diameter, 27 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 and they were about one or one and a half centimeters thick. 28 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 These have become known as the dropa stones. 29 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 MUSIC 30 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000 And these round stone disks had a black hole in the center. 31 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Some of them have a rectangular notch engraved in them, not cut out. 32 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Some of the notches were cut out, others were just engraved. 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,000 And then they found a spiraling groove of closely written ancient characters 34 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 like hieroglyphics radiating out from the center. 35 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:49,000 It is told that the expedition of Mr. Chipoté brought a lot of these stone disks to Beijing 36 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 because he had been in the Beijing Academy of Sciences. 37 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 MUSIC 38 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 According to believers, the dropa stones were filed away with other items from antiquity. 39 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 MUSIC 40 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Some 20 years later, one scientist became interested in deciphering the hieroglyphs on the stones. 41 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 It must have been at the end of the 50s, 1958 or 1959, 42 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,000 when Professor Tsum-Ung-Nui came upon these disks again, 43 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,000 and what he could decipher was a very weird story. 44 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:27,000 It was on the stones that Tsum-Ung-Nui is said to have deciphered the name of the extraterrestrials. 45 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 They call themselves the dropa. 46 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 MUSIC 47 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,000 The name of the dropa was written down on those stone disks. 48 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:46,000 And the story was as follows, that there was an alien crash landing in Western, 49 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 what is now Western China, 12,000 years ago. 50 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,000 MUSIC 51 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Dr. Nui purportedly faced opposition when it came time to publish his findings. 52 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:12,000 In 1960 or 1961, Professor Tsum-Ung-Nui published his reportings from his deciphering of the hieroglyphs. 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And the title was something like Hieroglyphs, 54 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:24,000 which are telling the story of spacecraft crash-landed in the Bayankara Ula Mountains in central China. 55 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Most of his colleagues thought it's an absolute nonsense. 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,000 And so Professor Tsum-Ung-Nui became very frustrated, 57 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:42,000 and not long after his publication, he emigrated to Japan. 58 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,000 However, the harsh reaction from the academic community in China did not silence the dropa stone's story. 59 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 A handful of magazines published articles about Dr. Nui's work, 60 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 keeping the remarkable story of the stones alive. 61 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:04,000 MUSIC 62 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:10,000 The first magazine which was publishing the story was the Russian Sputnik magazine. 63 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:21,000 A Sputnik magazine has been in the early 60s a magazine reporting interesting items from behind the iron curtain. 64 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,000 After the Sputnik article, researchers say that the story spread around the world. 65 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:36,000 In 1962 or 63, the Belgian UFO Investigator and then German publication, The Vegetarian Universe, 66 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 they brought the same story again. 67 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Until the year 1974, these articles inside the magazines were the only information we had. 68 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:54,000 It has never been possible to go to China in those years and to ask if the story is true. 69 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,000 But some ufologists, people who research and study possible alien visitation, 70 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,000 claim that the dropa tale was kept alive by oral tradition in the Bayankara Ula. 71 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:18,000 There are some old myths in those mountains which are telling the story of these small, tiny people crash-lending from the sky. 72 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Some of the legends claim that the dropa came from a star system called Sirius. 73 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:34,000 The ancient story tells that their ancestors came from the star system of Sirius 12,000 years ago. 74 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Some of the earliest gods and goddesses who came to Earth according to legend from the star Sirius, 75 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:45,000 for example in ancient Egypt you have the goddess Isis, the embodiment of the star Sirius. 76 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,000 The pyramids of Egypt were built in alignment with the star Sirius. 77 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,000 The theory that ancient gods were actually space aliens is common among ufologists. 78 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Author Matthew Hurley has studied the goddess space alien idea for over a decade. 79 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Throughout history, looking at many cultures around the world, we often hear of beings coming down from the sky 80 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,000 and we often read of imagery of UFOs. 81 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:19,000 To primitive humans, the technologically advanced visitors could have easily been mistaken for gods. 82 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,000 They would have arrived in their ancient spacecraft, they would have had an unusual appearance, 83 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 they would have spoken with a lot of wisdom and knowledge. 84 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,000 So primitive man would have been overwhelmed by these experiences 85 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,000 and may well have fallen to the trap of worshiping them as gods. 86 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Today we are left with only two verifiable photographs and a fantastic tale, 87 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 supposedly written in alien hieroglyphs. 88 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:05,000 In 1938, a Chinese archaeological expedition to the isolated Bayan Karahula Mountains 89 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 allegedly made an amazing discovery. 90 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Inside a series of caves that have never been located again, 91 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,000 they are said to have found oddly shaped skeletons and hundreds of mysterious stone disks 92 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 now known as Dropa stones. 93 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Some say that they also discovered etchings of the sun, stars and other celestial bodies carved on the cave walls. 94 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And he saw the planets of our solar systems and other stars 95 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,000 and some of them connected with lines made from points, something like a star map. 96 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:57,000 In the caves they find pea sized dots connecting the planet earth to a distant star system, 97 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 pointing towards the origin of the visitors. 98 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Are the alleged star map etchings proof that aliens were in the Bayan Karahula 12,000 years ago? 99 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:17,000 UFO researcher and author Matthew Hurley maintains that ancient art from all over the world 100 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,000 may provide evidence that early man was contacted by extraterrestrials. 101 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,000 We look at the cultures around the world and they all talk of beings coming down from above in their creation myths. 102 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,000 The fact that we have the depiction of UFOs in art which is going back through the epochs to me 103 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:38,000 strongly suggests ET and UFO visitation throughout the centuries. 104 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,000 The earliest examples cited by Hurley date to primitive cave art over 30,000 years old. 105 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Initially I believe ancient man would have used a branch and maybe scraped patterns in the mud. 106 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Then eventually he got hold of minerals such as manganese oxide and ochre 107 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:01,000 and was able to construct beautifully executed images on cave walls which we're familiar today, 108 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 such as hunting scenes and bison and so forth. 109 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Early man also drew pictures of the natural world including the sky. 110 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Man would have been looking up at the sky. 111 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 It would have provided a permanent backdrop to his day-to-day living as it does for us today. 112 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,000 And he would have observed the passage of the stars and heavenly bodies as the days went on. 113 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Man's fascination with the heavens has remained a common theme in art throughout the centuries. 114 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000 But Hurley sees unexplainable objects in many works of art that he believes may be extraterrestrials. 115 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 This example is from an area of France known as Pesh Mill. 116 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 We've got these curious geometric triangular shaped objects. 117 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Here's an example of a petroglyph from Velcomonica in Italy dated to 10,000 BC. 118 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:08,000 And we've got two beings which hold in strange implements and they have what appear to be helmets surrounding their heads. 119 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Interpretations from ufologists support that these images might be depictions of extraterrestrials, 120 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 but even Hurley admits that other possibilities exist. 121 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 I think we've got three possible explanations for these ancient artworks. 122 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,000 They could well be real and people were illustrating what they saw. 123 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 They could well be fictional and were purely out of the individual's imagination. 124 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Or they could well be real beings but maybe tribal leaders in some sort of ritual costume. 125 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 But Hurley is unsure about the origins of the alleged dropper stones. 126 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:47,000 I think what we may be looking at in those two photographs are either hoaxes which were done for the story, 127 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,000 or they may well be jade by disks. 128 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Jade by disks were created for the wealthy elite of China and they were placed in their tombs to protect them from demons. 129 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 The dropper stones do resemble jade by disks. There's no getting away from that. 130 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:15,000 In fact, the general design of the alleged dropper stones, disk shaped with a hole in the center, has appeared in Chinese art for centuries. 131 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Thousands if not tens of thousands of these disks have been recovered from sites all over China. 132 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:28,000 From many time periods, there's nothing particularly unique about finding a flat disk with a hole in the center. 133 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Although the shape of the dropper stones appears to be common to antiquity, the hieroglyphs on them were said to be otherworldly, the script of an alien hand. 134 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:50,000 They were like characters from other languages. Mr. Chipote thought it must be something like hieroglyphs. 135 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:58,000 But some researchers find the hieroglyph story hard to believe. 136 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:06,000 So these are disks that are allegedly 12,000 years old that have writing on them, that this Chinese scientist translated. 137 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:17,000 This is very problematic. First of all, this is an achievement greater than the translation of the Rosetta Stone by Champollion in the 19th century. 138 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:31,000 The Rosetta Stone was carved in 196 BC in Egypt and lists the good deeds of the pharaoh using three scripts, hieroglyphic, demotic, and Greek. 139 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Jean François Champollion deciphered the scripts in 1822 after many years of study. 140 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,000 His ability to read both Greek and Coptic helped him to figure out the writing on the Rosetta Stone. 141 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Some skeptics have noted the difficulty, if not impossibility, involved in deciphering scripts from unknown origins. 142 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:57,000 He was able to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics because there were two other languages that he knew. 143 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:06,000 So in this case, a Chinese scientist is able to decipher and allegedly pre-human language and tell a story. 144 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:14,000 How would you be able to tell the difference between an alien hieroglyphic and an alien human civilization hieroglyphic? 145 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 So I don't know what to make of this. There's nothing to make of it. It's just a story. 146 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 But according to the Dropa legend, there was something extraordinary about the stones. 147 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,000 That's why Russian scientists allegedly asked to examine them in the late 1960s. 148 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:38,000 After testing the composition of the discs, the Russian scientists are said to have studied the general design of the Dropa stones. 149 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:44,000 It was either 12 inches in diameter or 12 inches in circumference, possibly about like this, large or so. 150 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:53,000 With a hole in the center where you could stick your finger through and had emanating from the center going to the periphery, a spiral, like a groove. 151 00:14:53,000 --> 00:15:00,000 To describe the Bayan Karau'la stone discs, I can compare them with a modern, long-playing disc. 152 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,000 So, like photograph LPs, the Russian scientists supposedly placed the discs on a turntable of sorts to play them. 153 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Suddenly, the oscillator showed an abrupt movement that looked like the stone discs had some electrical charge inside. 154 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,000 The conclusion was that these stone discs must have been inside a very strong electrical field. 155 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Some ufologists allege that the electrically charged stones could have been used to send a vibrating message through space. 156 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Were the Dropa trying to phone home, like Steven Spielberg's marooned extraterrestrial in the 1982 movie E.T.? 157 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Why were the hieroglyphs written in a spiral pattern? 158 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 The enigma of the stones persists. 159 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Peter Lu, a physicist at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, has studied the phenomena of spirals in the natural world. 160 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Any time you want to simultaneously move, say, from the center of the circle while that circle is rotating, you get a spiral. 161 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,000 We see logarithmic spirals on both animals and plants. 162 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:16,000 In the animal kingdom, perhaps the most famous example is the chambered nautilus. 163 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Hurricanes, tornadoes, or spiral arrangements of storms. 164 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Like the swirling pattern of hieroglyphs on the alleged Dropa stones, spirals are a common motif throughout art history. 165 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,000 In Ireland at Newgrange, the entrance stone is covered with spirals. 166 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:39,000 In China, about 3000 BC, we have these wonderful painted pots with artistically drawn spirals that have been made with a brush. 167 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,000 And ink. 168 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 At about the same time the Egyptians introduced hieroglyphics. 169 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 They picked a spiral for the hieroglyphic character for the number 100. 170 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Spirals are an extremely common iconographic motif. 171 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,000 We see them in a wide distribution through space and through time. 172 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 And there's no reason to assume that it meant the same thing to everyone who drew one. 173 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Dropa has all the elements of a great science fiction story. 174 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Crashed UFOs, mysterious missing skeletons, and stone discs that are said to hold otherworldly secrets. 175 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,000 If the account is true, extraterrestrials landed in China 12,000 years ago. 176 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Those who believe call it China's Roswell. 177 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 You can compare these two stories. 178 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:37,000 The Roswell UFO crashed in 1947 and the Chinese Roswell that probably happened 12,000 years ago. 179 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:44,000 You have probably alien spacecraft that has crash landed in an area. 180 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 You have bodies that look similar. 181 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:57,000 In both cases you have little people with big clumsy heads and very tiny bones, very tiny skeleton. 182 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,000 And as well the proof of those crash landings has disappeared. 183 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And then the story went on and on and on through all the magazines, books, the internet. 184 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:18,000 The story and the way it was covered bear striking similarities to the alleged alien crash site at Roswell, New Mexico. 185 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:31,000 The Roswell incident really begins in the late 1970s when a documentary film about Roswell and other UFOs called UFOs Are Real was picked up by the National Enquirer. 186 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:39,000 It is true that in 1978 there were stories in the National Enquirer that discussed Roswell. 187 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,000 And that this was one of the major ways that the story got its rebirth. 188 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Then you saw articles and television films about it and more books and more books. 189 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Then that's when the eyewitnesses started to come out of the woodwork and tell their story. 190 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 That's when the Roswell incident really starts. 191 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Some UFO researchers agree that coverage in the tabloids seriously diminishes the believability and credibility of both the Roswell and Dropa accounts. 192 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,000 It's been a real hindrance and it's unfortunate. 193 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Aside from being nearly impossible to find, the Dropa magazine sources have proven equally problematic, but for a variety of reasons. 194 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,000 We are told that the original source for this was the Soviet magazine known as Sputnik. 195 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000 There was a German publication, Vegetarian Universe, from July of 1962. 196 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,000 There is apparently also Belgian UFO publication. 197 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 They also had an account of this in 1962. 198 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:45,000 These were very sensationalistic magazines, sort of equivalents of the star or the Enquirer and things like this. 199 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,000 And who in Vegetarian Universe knew Chinese? 200 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,000 The tabloid articles about Roswell and Dropa are just one of several similarities. 201 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 For some, the parallels run much deeper. 202 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:11,000 A government conspiracy in the minds of ufologists cover up is another aspect that both Dropa and Roswell have in common. 203 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:22,000 They often believe that the governments of the US and China are hiding extraterrestrial technology and alien bodies. 204 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Moreover, they claim Chinese officials have tried to hide a race of human alien hybrids. 205 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:46,000 There are a lot of instances in which the Chinese government acts in such a way as to prevent itself from being embarrassed. 206 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,000 It's not just government restriction that keeps tourists out of certain areas in western China. 207 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,000 The land itself is vast, isolated and often inhospitable. 208 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,000 The Bayan Karahula is a mountain range in the Qinghai province in central China. 209 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:07,000 It is as big as the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico with mountains ranging up until 20,000 feet. 210 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,000 And in this area is only one major road crossing through. 211 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:19,000 In the Bayan Karahula mountain range are people who have every day their fight against nature. 212 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:31,000 People are primarily herders. They raise a variety of different kinds of animals, horses, goats, sheep. 213 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000 But there are those who believe this rustic setting holds a dark secret. 214 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 A legendary village of dwarves. 215 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:52,000 House Dwarf argues that a race of human alien hybrids may live in a Chinese village called Wilong. 216 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Like Roswell, those who subscribe to the Dropus story think the Chinese government could be hiding extraterrestrials who crash-landed on Earth. 217 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:14,000 But the difference to Roswell in New Mexico is that in China, probably 12,000 years ago, some of them did survive. 218 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,000 And the next question is, when there were survivors, could they still exist in our days? 219 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Not the survivors themselves, but their descendants, generations and generations after. 220 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:37,000 House Dwarf says that the small, statured residents of Wilong may be the hybrid offspring of local humans and the marooned dropa. 221 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:45,000 There are press allegations that there were remarkably short people apparently that living in that part of China. 222 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:56,000 The Chinese government alleges that what has led to their dwarfism is the existence of contaminants in the environment. 223 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:03,000 The theory was supported by a study conducted by the Chinese Academy of Science, which found toxins in the water supply. 224 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 The results were widely published around the world. 225 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,000 The environmental pollution is extreme in many, many parts of China. 226 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:22,000 The water was adequately treated and according to press accounts in 1997, no new cases of dwarfism have been reported since. 227 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Could the little people of Wilong have inspired the entire Dropus story? 228 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:39,000 The mystery gets even more intriguing with the discovery of a journal written under the name of Dr. Carol Robin Evans, a British explorer. 229 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:48,000 In 1978, author David Agamon posthumously published The Travel Diary of Robin Evans as a book titled, Sun Gods in Exile. 230 00:23:49,000 --> 00:24:04,000 And this book described a journey to the Dropa region that Evans had allegedly made where he encountered these dwarf-like people who said to him that they had ancestors who came from the stars. 231 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:15,000 In 1947, English scientist Dr. Carl Robin Evans goes into the border of Tibet and China at the actual site and he studies the local language of the Pernzopa people. 232 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Actually, the book Sun Gods in Exile reads like a true story and it's very thrilling. 233 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,000 It's about those people coming through space with a spacecraft and crash landing here on Earth. 234 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:37,000 It turns out that there's no evidence that there was a Dr. Carol Robin Evans. No one can find this person or confirm that this person existed. 235 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:51,000 David Agamon does exist or did exist and from what I understand claimed that in later years that this was his own hoax or that he made up the name Dr. Carol Robin Evans. 236 00:24:51,000 --> 00:25:06,000 In the April 1998 edition of the popular British magazine Forty-In-Times, David Agamon did indeed admit that Sun Gods in Exile was a work of fiction. 237 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:16,000 This book is a complete hoax and in later years, David Agamon told the whole world, yes, this book is a hoax. 238 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Still, believers remain undaunted. 239 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:29,000 I'm convinced there's a truth behind the Stone Disk story but I know the book Sun Gods in Exile, it is a hoax. 240 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Yet, like Roswell, the Dropa story continues to grow with time and new evidence may have been discovered. 241 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Some say that mysterious Dropa stones supposedly found in the Chinese mountains were made by extraterrestrials who crash landed on Earth 12,000 years ago. 242 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:14,000 UFO researcher David Serreita believes that an astonishing video shot by the NASA space shuttle in 1996 shows mysterious objects shaped like Dropa stones floating in space. 243 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Serreita thinks they are extraterrestrial spaceships that he calls NASA UFOs. 244 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,000 There's a stunning resemblance to these Dropa stones and the NASA UFOs. 245 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:44,000 This stone disk with a round hole in the center, a rectangular notch cut out of the side and a spiraling groove of ancient written characters which was identical to what we were seeing on the NASA tapes. 246 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:55,000 This infrared footage, part of NASA's enormous catalog of space imagery available to the public for review, was shot from the space shuttle Columbia, Mission STS-75. 247 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Dr. Stephen Walton, director of the Donald E. Bianchi Planetarium and astronomy professor at California State University Northridge, remembers the mission. 248 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:18,000 In this particular mission, there was an idea of being able to generate electricity by unwheeling a 12-mile-long spool of wire downward from the space shuttle. 249 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Unfortunately, the wire broke and the rod that you can see is the broken end of the wire. 250 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:29,000 The objects appear to travel past the downed wire. This movement has convinced Serreita that they must be UFOs. 251 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 These things were all moving at different velocities. They must have internal energy in them to be going at different velocities. 252 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Walton has a different opinion. 253 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:47,000 If you look at the times at which the debris seems to make sudden motions, you find out that those sudden motions occur at the same time as the space shuttle firing its thrusters. 254 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Although neither is certain about the strange pulsing spiral seen on the objects, each has a very different theory of what it could be. 255 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:01,000 When I freeze-frame the pulse, you actually see a spiraling wave radiating out from the center. 256 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,000 When we get closer to the objects and we zoom in on them, we can see them strobing with these very curious energy waves. 257 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000 I don't think that the flashing has anything to do with electricity. It looks to me like it's a purely optical effect. 258 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:20,000 In Dr. Walton's view, the objects in question are nothing more than optical illusions caused by the space shuttle's video camera. 259 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:29,000 What you're seeing is probably a piece of debris tumbling in the sunlight and flashing on and off. 260 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:35,000 That flashing on and off of this object interacts with the 30 frames per second that a video camera takes with. 261 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 A simple experiment by Walton may demonstrate this phenomenon. 262 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:44,000 What I've got in my hand is a white plastic lid from a spray can. You can see that. 263 00:28:44,000 --> 00:29:03,000 And if we show that white object to the camera and then make the camera go very far out of focus, you will see that the unfocused image of this white object looks very much like a sort of donut-shaped object, kind of a spherical edge with a hole in the middle. 264 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 But some true believers are not convinced. 265 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:27,000 When you consider the hole in the center, the rectangular notch and the spiraling wave, all identical, when you look at them side by side to the NASA STS-75 UFO in 1996, you've got to ask yourself a lot of questions. 266 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:37,000 If someone is going to convince me that extraterrestrials are visiting the Earth, a few unidentifiable points of light on a video are not particularly persuasive. 267 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Like Roswell, some ufologists see the STS-75 footage as more evidence of a U.S. government conspiracy to hide extraterrestrials. 268 00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:00,000 But conspiracy goes beyond borders. Could the communist government in China have suppressed an even more shocking truth? 269 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Just like the physical evidence that is said to have disappeared from the ranch in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, the physical evidence relating to the dropper stones has seemingly disappeared. 270 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:26,000 I've never heard that the Russian scientists gave back those Bayan-Karaula stone discs to the Chinese. Very few people after this know what happened to some artifacts. 271 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Until perhaps 1974, when an Austrian engineer familiar with the dropper story claimed to have made an amazing discovery in China. 272 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:50,000 An Austrian engineer, a certain Mr. Weigler, came upon a small museum in Sien and he suddenly saw those stone discs exposed there. 273 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:58,000 So he asked the curator of the museum, a lady, what's about these stone discs? 274 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Oh, these stone discs are just cultural relics. Mr. Weigler took photographs with a Polaroid camera. 275 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Some see Ernst Weigler's photos as important physical evidence of the dropper story. 276 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:24,000 It is apparently a real photograph that does show discs, yes, but they don't show any grooves. They don't show anything that you can identify as the dropper discs. 277 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:34,000 The only evidence we're left with is a series of these Polaroid photographs. So the question is, is this purely a hoax or is there something to it? 278 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Hausdorff claims to have spoken directly with the late Ernst Weigler and was given the now famous Dropestone photographs. 279 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Because of the political climate in China at the time, Hausdorff was not allowed to visit the country until 1994. 280 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:59,000 I came upon this Ban Pio Museum and I could speak with a curator. I showed him the photographs. 281 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:09,000 First he looked around himself and then he told me, oh, I've heard just a few days after this Austrian engineer was here in this museum. 282 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Both the former curator and the stone discs on exposure here, they disappeared. No one knows up to know where they have vanished to. 283 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,000 The supposed disappearance of the stones has played into the conspiracy theories that now shroud the dropper stones. 284 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Like the Roswell incident decades before, a handful of photographs remain. 285 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:50,000 I think they are doing a cover-up. Imagine the story. It's about some alien people who experienced something like 1947 happened in Roswell, New Mexico. 286 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:58,000 When you don't have physical evidence, you have to give some explanation for why you think your story is true even though you can't prove it. 287 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,000 One of the things that people do in that case is construct conspiracy theories. 288 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Consensus seems impossible concerning both Roswell and the dropper incident. Secrecy may be a common denominator. 289 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:26,000 What government in this world would admit the reality of such an uncanny story? And that's the reason why I think that Chinese government is hiding those dropper discs. 290 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:37,000 This is utter nonsense. Whenever a spectacular scientific discovery or technological invention is made, people don't go crazy. Society doesn't fall apart. 291 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Researchers claim that they've had trouble locating key people and physical evidence to support the dropper tale. 292 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:55,000 You can't find any people or any bits of evidence. You can't find the paper that Tsum Hu Nui supposedly wrote in 1962. This has never been found by anybody. Where is it? 293 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 The discs themselves are nowhere to be found. 294 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:11,000 And if, as is claimed in the documents, there were actual bones of these people excavated by a Chinese archaeological team, where are the bones? 295 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:20,000 The difficulty of believing the story itself is primarily because of the inability of anyone to track any of these sources. 296 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:35,000 House Dwarf claims in his book The Chinese Roswell that the dropper stones, along with key evidence, were lost or destroyed during the decade of upheaval, known as the Chinese Cultural Revolution. 297 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:52,000 In the 1960s, the violent Cultural Revolution swept China. Having slipped in the ranks of the Communist Party, Chairman Mao Zedong created the revolution to regain power of the country. 298 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Mao couldn't do it through the Communist Party, so he mobilized the youth. He created an extra party apparatus in the Red Guards to bombard the party members and to get his own forces to replace those folks. 299 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000 And to a large extent, that was really what the Cultural Revolution was about. 300 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 The Red Guard lashed out at all aspects of traditional Chinese society. 301 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Here is a piece of the old feudal society. 302 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Destroy it, brand it, destroy the statue, tear down the image of a god that people used to believe in, or a saint or something like that. 303 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:51,000 In the belief that these things were holding China back. And a lot of really great stuff was destroyed as a result. 304 00:35:51,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Art work, religious images, historical texts and things that are quite clearly irreplaceable and an enormous loss to the culture and tradition of the Chinese people. 305 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:14,000 On September 9th, 1976, Chairman Mao died. The Chinese Cultural Revolution ended shortly after. 306 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Could the Dropa stones have been destroyed at the hands of Mao's Red Guard? 307 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Or did a courageous art lover stash the stones to prevent their destruction? 308 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,000 We may never know for certain. The past is blurred behind a bamboo curtain. Truth long buried in the chaos of revolution. 309 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000 It's difficult to tell fact from fiction, reality from fantasy. 310 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,000 For many of these people, the facts are irrelevant. The belief in alien visitation is a matter of faith. 311 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:54,000 No amount of contrary evidence is going to modify their beliefs because the facts don't matter. 312 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:11,000 In the years following the Cultural Revolution, China struggled to regain some sense of normalcy. The main focus of life was no longer revolution. 313 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:28,000 The borders opened and information poured in from the west, including the UFO craze that was sweeping America after close encounters of the Third Kind in 1977 and the publication of several books on Roswell. 314 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:37,000 During the times of Mao Tidong, where they were communists, they were not allowed to get information about this. 315 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:47,000 The communist ideology says all things come from Earth. Such things as UFOs or alien people do not exist. 316 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:56,000 But it didn't take long for the Chinese to catch on. By the late 1970s, people began to talk about and report UFO sightings. 317 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:06,000 There appeared to have been a fair amount of UFO sightings in China prior to the 1970s, but these were not really reported during the Mao years. 318 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:16,000 After his death around 1979 and 78 in fact, you start getting a degree of openness within China regarding this topic. 319 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:23,000 There are a number of Chinese researchers looking into this phenomenon and then as you would expect, dredging up stories from a lot of people who would say things like, 320 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000 let me tell you what I saw five years ago or ten years ago or twenty years ago. 321 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Today, there are more UFO sightings over China than anywhere else in the world. 322 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:49,000 There have been a variety of reported sightings in China of UFOs. Are they genuine visitations by UFOs? I don't know, but they certainly have been witnessed by large numbers of people. 323 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:59,000 You have to bear in mind that China's got over a billion people, so when you have two or three or a couple of thousand members of a UFO organization, 324 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:10,000 it's not necessarily a huge amount, but there is a core of very good, serious-minded people in China with true academic credentials who take this topic quite seriously. 325 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000 I think that's significant. 326 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Unlike in the U.S., UFO sightings in China are not only reported in tabloids but in conventional newspapers as well. 327 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:35,000 According to press accounts, modern China has the world's biggest network of UFO clubs, the China UFO Research Organization and a monthly UFO magazine that sells 400,000 copies. 328 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Hobbies and academics meet regularly to watch the skies and discuss UFO news. 329 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,000 There are, in fact, UFO clubs now beginning to spring up in and around China. 330 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Perhaps now UFOs are more interested in China and there are more of them going there. 331 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:07,000 The reason that UFO clubs are more popular in China is they now are free to think what they want and they now are very interested in UFOs and related items. 332 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Which brings us back to the question, is Dropa China's Roswell? 333 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:23,000 I see them as absolutely totally different. I see Dropa as most likely hoax, almost certainly hoax, let us say. 334 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:30,000 And I see Roswell as something that has not yet been explained officially by the United States Air Force or government. 335 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,000 I think people call Dropa the Chinese Roswell because it's sexy and gets better ratings and attention to people because Roswell is already known. 336 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Otherwise, it's a total nonsense, mythical story. 337 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Just like Roswell, abductions small beings with oversized heads, spaceships, hybrid children and a government intent on hiding them. 338 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,000 China is quickly creating its own UFO mythology. 339 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:11,000 But if the accounts are true, their extraterrestrial heritage may go back many centuries, before the communists, before the Cultural Revolution and even before the cave art. 340 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Back to the isolated mountains where some believe that a peaceful race called the Dropa crash landed and created stone disks to preserve their story for posterity. 341 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:32,000 I think for some people, their own paradigm isn't wide enough to accept the idea that they may be looking at possible extraterrestrials. 342 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:43,000 It would cause a revolution in sciences because this would be the proof that there has been alien people from the stars crash landing here. 343 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000 But the lack of physical evidence sharply divides skeptics and believers. 344 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,000 The only evidence we're left with is a series of these Polaroid photographs. 345 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000 So the question is, is this purely a hoax or is there something to it? 346 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:08,000 The people involved in the Dropa story, these Chinese scientists and other journalists who apparently wrote about it and so forth, are not to be found in any other context at all. 347 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 No one knows who these people are. There's just no evidence that they actually even existed. 348 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,000 First of all, there's no stones, there's no stones with grooves, there's no stones with grooves with hieroglyphics. 349 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,000 My attitude is with the Dropa stones. Get a life. 350 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Still others stand firm. 351 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Well, I myself, I'm convinced there's a truth behind the stone disk story. 352 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:48,000 I'm convinced that most of the 716 stone disks are still in those caves and maybe by chance, it one day happens, that another man can step in this area again and find these caves. 353 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000 And this would be a very thrilling thing. 354 00:42:51,000 --> 00:43:00,000 If it would be possible to find these stone disks again, it would rise the whole story out of the fox of obscurity again.